tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044576021219205068.post2860323398934057994..comments2024-03-28T00:30:15.013+13:00Comments on Claire Amos: To LMS or not to LMS...that is the questionClaire Amoshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10579894985450127837noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044576021219205068.post-51557229292418033632013-06-17T08:57:51.414+12:002013-06-17T08:57:51.414+12:00Thanks Chris! This is really useful to know about....Thanks Chris! This is really useful to know about. Cheers ClaireClaire Amoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10579894985450127837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044576021219205068.post-53618977137624099642013-06-13T21:43:10.535+12:002013-06-13T21:43:10.535+12:00I was up at the University of Auckland today talki...I was up at the University of Auckland today talking to the new Head of CEDD. Steve has a really clear vision for what eLearning and pedagogy can look like for their teacher trainees:<br /><br />http://chrisswanwickmasters.wordpress.com/2013/06/13/a-chat-with-cedd-2/<br /><br />We touched on this and they're definitely in the business of keeping the LMS. Yes, it functioned more as course admin than LMS, curating student work for moderation, enrolling in courses etc. It was also needed as a 'front door' or 'launchpad', echoing your thoughts and those of others. He was clear that that was the admin side of things, but in terms of supporting the learning, they were all about BYOB and browser based, OS agnostic tools that worked best. Dropbox was a favourite for example, along with GDrive, and whatever else fits with their increasingly PBL approach to teacher training. <br />Hope that helps, I'm keen to see where this debate leads. I think there is now a few tools out there that try and create the best of both worlds. I've heard good things about 'Schoology' for example? <br />Ok, cheers Claire. <br />Chris<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044576021219205068.post-67321946036209316282013-06-12T12:48:52.181+12:002013-06-12T12:48:52.181+12:00Re. above post on 'Learning Junction'
My r...Re. above post on 'Learning Junction'<br />My response/tangent was too long to fit on the blog, so have added a link here as a continuation:<br />https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bhe_otrpLtGE7A8VkWoumBkK2baCdk_bqImj52c7Q0w/edit?usp=sharing<br />Feel free to comment here or on the doc.<br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044576021219205068.post-70728416872193439602013-06-12T12:46:15.469+12:002013-06-12T12:46:15.469+12:00A very timely post, Claire.' The Learning Jun...A very timely post, Claire.' The Learning Junction' At Takapuna Normal Intermediate, we keep an eye on either side of the tracks as far as what digital spaces both primary and secondary schools use and where we fit in. As the culture in Intermediate schools changes so frequently, we have tried to find a system that reflects that and responds to a climate where students are really in two different mind sets at the beginning and end of Intermediate school. At the beginning, they are just out of primary school and quite likely coming from either no LMS or a tightly regulated LMS or similar and usually with very little in the way of Digital Citizenship and its enormous scope. By the end of Intermediate, they have to consider BYOD, mobile technology, managing one's digital dossier, and a good understanding of Digital Citizenship...<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044576021219205068.post-36511566741288172942013-06-12T08:31:51.147+12:002013-06-12T08:31:51.147+12:00Hi Claire
Although I probably can't give a def...Hi Claire<br />Although I probably can't give a definite opinion on this it is something I have thought about a little bit. We have an LMS, but due to the size/nature of our school I think we probably need one.<br /><br />Over the past year or so, I've started thinking of the LMS as a portal where you can go into to get linked out. The LMS is a good, safe, secure place for discussion and connection with other students and teachers, but then we can link out to other, often better, more appropriate sites/tools. They can then be brought back in for more discussion or to collate what has been done 'out there'.<br /><br />Part of my reasoning for thinking of the LMS like this is that sometimes there is resistance to using the LMS as it doesn't necessarily do everything we want it to. I'm a big proponent of 'the right tool for the job' and always say that if there's something better, then use it.<br /><br />I'm sure that doesn't really help, but those are my thoughts on the matter anyway :)<br /><br />Cheers<br />NathanielAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08699107830320062421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044576021219205068.post-15300924468157139052013-06-11T19:00:50.161+12:002013-06-11T19:00:50.161+12:00Claire, we at Newmarket School will follow your jo...Claire, we at Newmarket School will follow your journey with interest as we are in the same quandrum. Looking forward to reading the next instalment.Sonya Van Schaijikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18137962247304160923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044576021219205068.post-31075500931226557972013-06-11T14:56:02.347+12:002013-06-11T14:56:02.347+12:00You should definitely go with LMS. I understand th...You should definitely go with LMS. I understand that you have hesitations, it is normal, you are in doubt after all, but you shouldn't let it hold you back from doing what you have always wanted to try to do.<br /><br />- Peter, <a href="http://www.literarymovies.com/" rel="nofollow">source for e-scripts</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04401926968125343253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044576021219205068.post-13328969443640146822013-06-10T08:57:16.885+12:002013-06-10T08:57:16.885+12:00I'm really interested by this conversation Cla...I'm really interested by this conversation Claire, because I think it's starting to get louder and louder, isn't it? I can't really speak to the tecchie aspects of your problem, but I guess from the point of view of the learning, it points towards an extended social network doesn't it? We have a lot of stuff now about constructivism and connectivism and it seems that this points towards a network of learners who can engage in a two way dialogue about the learning taking place. This places them in a node that is connected to a broader network. Does the LMS limit this somewhat, in the sense that it's rather a one way platform? I guess the implication is that the learning still belongs to the institution? With the whole 'lifelong' learner thing, do we want students able to practise forging connections and critically engaging with content for themselves? Or do we need to keep them in the garden that an LMS provides? I think it's really interesting question, and am keen to see where this debate gets to. <br />Maybe I haven't seen enough excellent uses of Moodle. The examples I've seen tend to look more like automating learning, and the administration of learning, rather than encouraging the 21C learning process as we think about it now. <br />But I'd be really happy to understand more about how schools see this and are approaching it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044576021219205068.post-31999468734170470802013-06-10T08:37:52.805+12:002013-06-10T08:37:52.805+12:00I hear and empathise with your pain! Our e-learnin...I hear and empathise with your pain! Our e-learning committee is grappling with similar issues at the moment. My own feeling is there needs to be a central space that everyone shares. However, when all is said and done, regardless of the amount of thought that has gone into making the LMS decision, I think it may all boil down to what will be used most efficiently by the school community. We have Ultranet but it isn't been used successfully at the moment and I think that may in large part be due to teacher buy-in. Simple, effective and easy to use is what's required. Keen to hear what your final decision is! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com